I know the mom who birthed the 7th billion baby in recent days is probably feeling some heat. Somewhere, someone is saying “Another person?! How dare you? Isn’t the planet crowded enough? “. I have more thoughts on moms and their ‘over-achievements’ in this area that can be found here.
The fact is mothers are really key to this issue. If we asked moms how to manage populations, we would probably see numerous changes in our social and economic systems that would likely lead to the birth of fewer people.
To support my point of view, I came up with ideas and discussed them with my friend, David, at Overpopulation Insights. He’s got a great articles on his site and is seriously concerned about overpopulation. I think we all should be.
Overpopulation Insights: I was critical recently of an article from
NEWSWEEK by Robert Samuelson whose major thesis was that it is somehow
our duty to produce children because it is good for the economy. In my
piece, I express the drawbacks of this theory. We currently have a
system that rewards, encourages, subsidizes and markets to any men or
women who are able to simply have children.
Ultimate Outcast: The problem is that we have not created a system
that benefits and rewards responsible reproduction. Moms are the best people to develop systems would improve this situation because they have the experience. The reproductive work that mothers do is too often considered a byproduct of events in society instead of the source through which every event is made possible. The financial/social/religious and political set up is backwards and out-of-balance.
Overpopulation Insights: Hence, much energy, writing and angst from
overpopulation concerns is directed at those more universal and
impoverished groups (often women with children), rather than the equally important task of developing systems and reinforcing attitudes and behaviors for a more select group of responsible and enlightened potential mothers and fathers.
Ultimate Outcast: I agree completely. We live by example. Often it’s difficult for women to see beyond the joys or pressures of a young man’s
attention, which leads to unplanned pregnancies. Especially if it is what her mother did. For young women to take a more intentioned path, they need
to see the road ahead as one wide enough to walk along with a child and dream for herself. That involves reviewing economic systems, particularly our own in this country. We have an opportunity to lead the world on this issue.
Overpopulation Insights: I have concerns about the role of poverty in
either producing unwanted children, or children with little or no
economic resources. One idea that has been considered is paying
people, especially young women at the poverty level, to delay having
children and pursue more education. That would postpone their choosing
to have children they cannot afford yet, raise both their skills and
consequent pay level so they are more competitive and productive in
the job market. In the end we have a more mature, better educated
person less dependent on society for her support, and studies have
shown they will have fewer children and happier more stable and
productive lives.
Ultimate Outcast: I think paying women to not have children would
create many ethical issues. But I support the idea of implementing
greater financial incentives for child-bearing in women who have
pursued education or have had a job. A woman engaged in these
activities will tend to bear fewer children and select more
responsible partners. Currently, there are mroe financial incentives
for an impoverished woman to have multiple children than to get an education and work in the U.S. That needs to change. I think we should consider a grant system for all new births as has been implemented in many
countries in the world. There would be a generous base grant amount
for the first two births based on the educational and work history of the individual woman. I think we can create an American version of this system
through market mechanisms. We need to create incentives for women to access a variety of opportunities, select an ideal partner to have children with and have a good life that includes a manageable number of children. And they would be the direct example for their sons and daughters.
Overpopulation Insights: Just what are the ethical issues you are
concerned about in paying women not to have children until they are
prepared to do so? It would seem to benefit both the mother and any
future children. A win-win situation, if you will. Secondly, paying
women not to have children in essence is a grant system, so why would
we need to institute a second grant system if women were already
prepared through education and job training to support their children,
if they choose to have them. Finally, the trend is actually fewer
births in educated families and they are the least likely to need a
grant system. So far there is little evidence that most women in
poverty have few if any incentives to not have children,
Unfortunately, I suspect there is so little that is available and
meaningful to women in poverty that producing children is the only
thing that is an option. I have empathy for their circumstances and
lack of choices, but it is counterproductive to empowering women and
mothers, and reducing both poverty and overpopulation.
In summary any incentives most likely should be aimed at raising the
standard of living and education of those least able to afford and
raise children successfully, rather than including those with more
resources. Those more educated and effluent groups are quite able to
pragmatically choose whether to have children or not, and be able to
nurture, educate and financially support them, if they do choose to
have children.
Ultimate Outcast: In theory, paying women not to have children does
sound like a solution until women are doing extreme things to rid
themselves of unintended pregnancies. I think we would also see
increases in newborn abandonment.
Paying women not to have children should coincide with paying people
not to procreate altogether. It takes two after all. So neither are
realistic policies. It’s a women who carries all of the evidence. The powerful role of childbearing is the source of reproductive bias and feminine suppression ever-present in religions, politics, economics.
China’s one-child policy has placed Chinese mothers in difficult ethical, emotional and moral dilemmas when a brief event turned into
another human being to feed. The problem is not the children. It’s the systems they are born into. But they suffer for it. Abortions are common while the elderly are living longer and longer. We need to pay attention to both problems. Are babies the problem or is it an aging population?
Overpopulation Insights: In an ideal world what you advocate is
certainly a reasonable scenario. Unfortunately, we are very far from
an ideal world, and this country and others are already in serious
crisis mode. Dramatically slowing fertility rates in the near term
have to be the major foundation for any real change in population
dynamics. That can only happen if the focus is on the groups in our
societies producing most of the unneeded and unwanted children,
specifically in this country, but also in the rest of the
underdeveloped nations. It would seem only logical then to funnel most
allocated resources to the poor and uneducated, both women and men as
you rightly point out.
For any potential solutions to occur, there must be a general
acknowledgement by all that overpopulation will doom us and our
children to ongoing conflicts and economic decline. That universal
consciousness does not yet exist.
Conclusion: In the end it will be the mothers (and fathers) that will carry the burden for not only educating their own children about the dangers of
too many people, but who also represent the biological means in which
fertility rates will fall to more sustainable levels. That is a burden
and responsibility that needs all the assistance we can provide,
whether in the form of grants or incentives.






Marm
/ November 19, 2011Gosh, how could it possibly be relaxing or fun to be a pool that crowded? I see a toilet!
Heather
/ November 19, 2011Ha! When I saw a similar beach photo at Overpopulation Insights, I asked David where he thought all those people went to the bathroom. His genius answer was pretty logical: the water…
Gerrard
/ November 18, 2011This is a huge topic and I’m going to comment on a piece of it.
What I felt was missing from your discussion was a practical and necessary example of what should be done today. Sure, education helps a lot, but I doubt the single mother with no job and four kids is willing or able to pursue an undergraduate degree today.
I don’t know what’s available so I’ll be careful to criticize, but in this hypothetical situation, the mother needs help with childcare so she can go to school. She also needs a part-time job that pays a decent amount of money so she can earn her own money and provide benefits for her and her family. Then–and I didn’t plan for this upcoming conclusion, I promise–she will be too tired to have sex, and probably never have children again.
I haven’t run any numbers, but I am willing to pay higher taxes for a system that watches children while a parent is pursuing school. I really need to be careful with these statements because I noted I would pay higher taxes for something else on my blog!
Heather
/ November 19, 2011To deal with this, we must shape the attitude/culture/economics as it deals with younger women on the topic. We need women of all ages to hold a responsible mindset for the future/important potential role of being a mom. That is not ever part of our social discussion.
The plan I have would involve heavily subsidized childcare and part-time work for women with children. The resources for this are there — they are just wasted! Moms have very little political influence (in spite of making/raising the politicians themselves). But as we gain some we can reallocate certain resources in a smart way.
I see you have heard about the most effective family planning method out there: Mom Exhaustion. I can confirm you are right (I have only one, haha!) — but then women who have no time to attend to their sexual needs leads us to the numerous conflicted issues women carry (from confidence, stress-relief, energy, relationship connections….I could go on). Women need that time and attention too.
You are very generous Gerard! I don’t think it’s the spending of the money that is the real problem. It’s the lack of oversight and proper management. I did not fight in a war — I am okay to pay my share of taxes, too. As long as it’s managed effectively.
Freedombytheway
/ November 4, 2011Fascinating discussion. But I disagree with both of you on the issue of paying women not to have children. To be fair, I do not like our current system of financially rewarding women to have more children, either. In our country, as well as undeveloped nations, the emphasis should be placed on education and birth control. You are correct that educated people make more sound decisions about everything including when to start a family and are in a better position to provide for their children’s needs. The ultimate goal should always be preservation of personal freedom to decide if and how many children to have, with the understanding that with freedom comes personal responsiblity to care for your children. We have a long way to go, no doubt.
Heather
/ November 4, 2011I always appreciate your perspective Freedom.
I’m trying to think of ways to alleviate women from the dependency (and sometimes punishment) that is created when they have children (whether it is the result of rape or an impulsive one-night stand). Babies should not be punished. The risk of maternal poverity is a lynchpin in society and affects women’s choices adversely — they stay with abusive men, our use men for money. I think if monetary policy can be created around military might and various lending practices something similar can be divised for women when they have children.
There is the personal responsibility of sexual choices that I am very attuned to and it is the equally important issue. Until women understand that sexuality is powerful because of the potentional for reproduction — not sinful or about submission — then I think we will see them making better choices. That’s a cultural aspect I am very interested in exploring further.
Valerie
/ November 3, 2011“Currently, there are mroe financial incentives for an impoverished woman to have multiple children than to get an education and work in the U.S. ”
What is your basis for this statement? Benefits under federal and most state laws have a “family cap” which they will not exceed, no matter how many children the mother bears or cares for. Also, TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, what replaced the welfare system after the 1996 reforms), provides for a maximum 60 month eligibility period. Having more children will not extend that time frame. Finally, the amount of the monthly TANF benefit is laughably small, usually a few hundred dollars per family, and totally inadequate to cover basic needs.
Wouldn’t you agree that we already pay women, in effect if not in fact, not to have children, or at least to have them later in life? Postponing childbirth and extending education increases lifetime income for women. Teenage pregnancy exponentially increases the likelihood for the mother and her children. That suggests that the notion of paying women to postpone motherhood is already in place, but not effective in reducing fertility rates, doesn’t it?
Heather
/ November 4, 2011Hi Valerie,
I think your comment about the system we already have in place is geared toward the point of view of David and I agree completely with your statement. You gave a good point that the existing system of paying not to have kids is still not really working.
The comment specifically that you note here is my statement. While you are informing me of certain details that I was not aware, those benefits — while meager — are significantly more than the working mom who gets little-to-no financial incentives whatsoever (other than certain tax deductions — which incentivize her to work out of the house and not mother her child). I want to see us mothering more and working out of the house less when our children are most dependent.
I own a Section 8 property so I am aware that if a woman has more children, she gets more benefits. I agree, the benefits are increasingly more restrictive. I think much of it has to do with the fact that other women get no benefits. Thus, even women see this as unfair and many are allowing it to fall apart — at their own or future daughter’s peril!